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- I've been watching the various discussions of souls/lack of etc. in
- here, until Ron decided that he didn't feel like arguing the topic
- any more. Those of you who read the Skeptics topic may have noticed
- that I have been arguing for the existence of demons recently;
- Herewith this message, where I present my side of the argument.
- Hopefully this longish post will clear a lot of the small questions
- out of the way in one go, so if anyone wants to argue with it you
- will have some quotes to work on and attack me with! :-)
-
- First I'm going to present the theory, and then back it up with
- examples. Acknowledgemnts to Peter Carroll (not @ CIX) for
- expressinging it so succinctly in his new book.
-
- CHAOS MAGIC THEORY
- Propositions:-
- 1. All matter emits energy or "Aether" and this carries/consists of
- information about the originating matter.
-
- 2. This aether is non-local to the emitting matter, and can be
- instantaneously accessed everywhere.
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- 3. Aether can have a shaping effect on matter which has a similarity
- with the matter emitting the aeither. This effect tends to
- reinforce the similarity of the behaviours of the matter involved.
- This is the only way that aether may be perceived; similarly
- gravity is only detectable when it exerts its influence on
- another body. These effects give rise to various physical laws
- and constants. Repitition reinforces the probabilty of events
- occurring as time goes by, and eventually a pattern forms.
-
- 4. Aether intereacts with itself to produce patterns which
- correspond to potential past and future states. Past and future
- are indeterminate and therefore only the present moment has any
- real existence. Schroedinger's cat is the famous example of
- future indeterminism. It is also a good example of past
- indeterminism: once we let it out of the box it may be dead or
- alive, but prior to this it existed in both states. This notion
- draws on quantum physics. If you do not accept quantum physics on
- the basis of logical argument etc., I doubt that I will be able to
- bring you round to this POV.
-
-
- 5. Any material structure can emit aether (point 1) therefore
- mental events, having structure, can affect other material things
- (point 3). Thus under the right conditions (ie with sufficient
- structure and definition) a thought can affect the behaviour of
- some other matter. Similarly other matter may affect or generate
- thought if the mind is sufficiently receptive. Hence spells,
- divination, etc. If you go for an interview, you will succeed if
- your projections of aether are sufficiently in tune with the
- interviewwer's. Enchantment works on the same principles, but
- usually on more difficult things. Bear in mind that you are unlikely
- to apply for a job where you do not have any affinity with the work
- being offered.
-
-
- Now that you have read and agreed with all that [some hope! :-) ], I
- will present some examples drawn from personal experience. I can
- also think of ones which I have received second-hand, but these will
- be clearly stated as being such to avoid any possibilities of people
- muttering "hearsay!".
-
-
- I'll start with divination, since that is where I had my first
- eperiences. This does not include Tarot etc., because that could be
- construed in many cases as one's subconscious and muddies the
- argument. Since the age of about six I have had a facility for
- precognition: it began with suddenly realising that scene at which
- one was looking was like a snapshot from a dream I would have had
- previously. Suddenly I remember where I had "seen" what was in front
- of me *to the smallest detail*.
-
- By now, it has developed to the point where the memory can cover a
- period of several seconds, such that I know exactly what someone
- (or something) will say or do next. This can happen with anything
- from personal experiences to watching a news broadcast, and I
- experience it every 1-2 weeks on average.
-
- Some specifics: Being in a tram in Moscow. This was one that I
- remembered after waking up from the dream, 3 months prior to the
- event ( a school trip). I did not know at the time that I would be
- in Moscow later, and I couldn't work out what I was doing in a tram
- on a snowy street while I was having the dream, or indeed after
- waking up.
-
- Reading a book in my bedroom which had not been published at the
- time. Again, I couldn't understand where this Dungeons and Dragons
- book had come from, as it contained rules that I had never heard of
- and which I would not have expected to be reading in D&D book
- already available (it was about D&D in the far east, which was
- anathema to most roleplayers at the time!).
-
- All of these dreams have the qualities of:
- a) Being *entirely* accurate
- b) Their events being unimaginable/unlikely at the time of dreaming
- c) Being fully objective, as if one had suddenly "woken up" into the
- situation and was able to apply full normal reasoning and logic to
- the dream events.
-
- Many dreams involve a situation which I *could not* have dredged up
- from memory, eg a recent one which I remembered while walking
- through Rochester Cathedral. I was not aware of the existence of
- Rochester at all until I went through it on a train two weeks later.
-
- I do not see that this conflicts with point (4) above, as:-
- a) Future events only exist as possibilities - who knows how many
- dreams I have not remembered?
- b) Dreaming, and any further thought on the dream will reinforce the
- probability of an event occurring, as suggested in point (5).
- The events described above also lend some weight to point (2).
-
-
- Next I will proceed to give some examples relevant to point (5),
- where a material event has taken place with no physical interference
- of any sort. These can be put down to coincidence, but to do so
- would mean ignoring probability. Here I apply Occam's razor, though
- I would point out that it is *not* infallible. William of Occam
- might have ruled out the existance of atoms in his day!
-
- Naturally I take it that nobody will call my word into doubt on these
- matters - I hope! :-)
-
- Two recent and particularly striking examples first. I was walking
- through a small courtyard outside my flat one day when a young man
- rode in on a scooter. He resembled to an extraordinary degree one of
- the redneck types that had bullied me in school, and I instantly
- disliked him. As soon as I had formed the thought, he fell off his
- scooter. I was pretty surprised - looking at it from my POV it
- seemed obvious that I had produced the effect.
-
- I didn't rule out coincidence on this one however, until a few weeks
- later. Walking down the street, I spotted an office postboy that
- looked rather snooty. So much so, in fact, that I wished he would
- drop the post he was holding so it would take him down a peg or two.
- And he did. (Let me stress here that I am not a hooliganistic person
- by nature :-) ). The street was deserted, and he was not in danger
- of being jostled. Nor was he carrying his envelopes awkwardly, he
- didn't have a great deal to carry for that matter.
-
- On another occaison I have witnessed a ritual designed to strike at
- the international communications network of a certain company who had
- caused extreme grief to one of the participants. Let's call the
- company "Quoters" [hint] - I don't want to be accused of spreading
- bad press about them because I don't have any personal stake in this
- myself. The same afternoon their new (very secure etc. etc.!) "speedy"
- stateside link broke down while they were demonstrating it to the
- press.
-
- Lest I be seen as totally vandalistic :-) I have also been involved
- in rituals to aid people, where thay have gone one to discover lost
- investment certificates, achieved major benefits in their chosen
- field etc. But it is *immediately* easier to wreck havoc on
- something rather than enhance it, as any programmer will know :-).
-
- Now it seems to me that an event which falls totally into line with
- a desire which has had no material expression other than a mental
- one, is *most probably* caused by that desire - Occam's Razor. My
- propositions above seem the most sensible quantisation of the
- mechanics involved.
-
- Well, that's my pitch, and I'm sorry it has to be so long! I do hope
- that you will take the time to think about it, and I will look
- forward to your comments...er, then again, maybe not!! :-)
-
- Baphomet